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Sea level rise: Miami and Atlantic city fight to stay above water

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Sea levels are rising. For many cities on the the eastern shores of the United States, the problem is existential. Subscribe to The Guardian ► http://is.gd/subscribeguardian We take a look at how Miami and Atlantic City are tackling climate change, and the challenges they face under a skeptical Trump administration that plans to cut funding for environmental programs. Become a Guardian supporter ► http://bit.ly/GDNmembers The Guardian ► https://www.theguardian.com Suggested videos: Battle for Mosul ► http://bit.ly/MosulDoc Radical Brownies ► http://bit.ly/RadicalBrowniesFilm Desert Fire ► http://bit.ly/DesertFire 6x9: experience solitary confinement ► http://bit.ly/6x9gdn Gun Nation ► http://bit.ly/GunNationDoc We Walk Together ► http://bit.ly/WeWalkTogetherFilm The last job on Earth ► http://bit.ly/LastJobOnEarth Patrick Stewart: the ECHR and us ► http://bit.ly/PatrickStewartS The epic journey of a refugee cat ► http://bit.ly/KunkuzCat Guardian playlists: Guardian Bertha Documentaries ► http://bit.ly/GuardianBertha In my opinion ► http://bit.ly/InMyOpinion Owen Jones meets ► http://bit.ly/CorbynJones US elections 2016 ► http://bit.ly/elections2016gdn Guardian Animations & Explanations ►http://is.gd/explainers Guardian Investigations ► http://is.gd/guardianinvestigations The Guardian's YouTube channels: Owen Jones talks ► http://bit.ly/subsowenjones Guardian Football ► http://is.gd/guardianfootball Guardian Science and Tech ► http://is.gd/guardiantech Guardian Culture ► http://is.gd/guardianculture Guardian Wires ► http://is.gd/guardianwires
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Rafas Mom (11 days ago)
Climate change has been happening since the Earth was created, 4.5 Billion years ago. The last ice age ended approximately 13,000 years ago. Niagara Falls was only created 12,000 years ago. North and South America were totally covered by ice. When the ice melted, the oceans rose 390 feet. There have been periods where we have been plus and minus 10 degrees the norm. Did we kill off the Dinosaurs? No. The earth has only had a stable temperature for 10,000 years. Thats right, 10,000 years out of 4.5 Billion. Do you realize how little that is? We are going to have another ice age and hot age no matter what we do. Cows produce more methane, which is just as dangerous as CO2, than cars produce CO2. The earth will be here for another 4.5 billion years, we won't, and not using your Keurig or drinking water out of plastic bottles won't make any difference. I am not saying that humans do not contribute to climate change, we do so just by breathing, but so does Nature. I am not saying that we should not try to change our ways and reverse Climate Change, we are. Every little bit helps. Enjoy life and do your part to be Green.
Daniel Kohler (12 days ago)
anyone else hear "we're going to need tons of federal money (read tax dollars from the rest of the working class country) to bail out these ultra rich city's disastrous, reckless, building and development projects"? Bail out money just like the S&L crisis while mayors, developers, bankers and insurance companies take years of massive cash grabs knowing that building hi-rises on a limestone coastline isn't sustainable.
Frank Blangeard (16 days ago)
"Some parts of Florida have experienced as much as twelve inches of sea level rise" 2:20. And the other parts of Florida have not? No. Some parts of Florida are experiencing subsidence because of loading the ground with buildings and extracting water from the ground.
Kevin Gooley (18 days ago)
Florida's main issue is likely to be subsidence. Is it not?
Kenneth Rosario (20 days ago)
All you have to do is go to Miami and you’ll see it with your own eyes!’n
Joshua79C C (21 days ago)
O M F G, Sea levels are NOT rising, this is the reslt of erosion and settling due to said land being built upon what was once swamp or marshland. Just look at the size of the Everglades, that is what is under most of all of Florida!! Same erosion is happening to all beaches, its the way the earth "grows" in its own way and not affected by human intervention at all you Sheep who think that the water level is rising naturally or being affected by pollution of sorts.
K D (1 month ago)
Atlantic city...... Soon Atlantis city......
tom Dobyns (1 month ago)
This whole "climate change" thing is half baked. If floating ice melts, it does not increase the displacement of the water that floats it. Only ice over land that melts makes a difference. We also have a problem with the earth changing size due to internal temperatures. The earth is 8000 miles in diameter, and given the coefficient of thermal expansion of rock (solid or liquid), a 50 foot change in the earths diameter is nothing. We also have instruments that can measure movements of the earths surface to fractions of an inch. The problem is, we do NOT have a standard location to begin from. There is also a problem with the earth's surface moving in 3 dimensions, with each area being different and usually unrelated in the movement. What we need, is more monitoring and actual science instead of environmentalists telling us we are going to die. All of us have numbered days. None of us needs to be reminded of that. We need more options. If people are worried about "global warming" and C02 emissions, then we need to look into LFTR as an energy source. It is new and safe nuclear technology. Instead of having "demonstrations" and beating a drum... read a little to figure out the problems and then work towards getting it fixed. Sickum Uncle Donald !
Heywood Jablowme (1 month ago)
But global warming and sea level rise are a "HOAX!" So all this water is just a hoax created by Democrats! It's true! Just ask our idiot President and the rest of the science-denying Republicans in congress! If you vote Republican, the island will stop sinking! Of course, you have to clutch your BUY-BULL close to your chest and PRAY, TOO! JEBUS will save you!
James Armstrong (1 month ago)
Climate Change is a computer model of the future and there are 114 of them which can not predict the weather (short term climate) 10 days ahead - believing in doom has become a religion since only belief is required to make it true....
Katherine Sloan (1 month ago)
What people don’t seem to realize is this all predicted and foretold in The Bible. Pick up a copy and read it and accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior before the end.
Paul D (1 month ago)
Florida is a swamp, surrounded by water. Please do not be surprised when a mass of land with water on three sides floods. Just so you know. New York City would be under water if it did not have sea walls and massive pumps.
daniel labrada (1 month ago)
Climate change is real. We must stop burning fossil fuels we must reduce our trash. We must stop factories stop producing pollution. It’s time for us to act NOW no more gasoline powered vehicles no more airplane travel using jet fuel no more of that. It’s not all about money anymore it’s about life.
Angellica Goodson-Lord (1 month ago)
THUMBS DOWN CLIMATE CHANGE IS A LIE TO INSTALL AGENDA 21 OR 2030. WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON IS THAT A CRUSTAL DISPLACEMENT POLE SHIFT HAS STARTED WHICH IS CAUSING ALL OF THE PROBLEMS THESE PHONY GLOBAL WARMING LIARS ARE TALKING ABOUT YET YOU FIND LITTLE ABOUT THE START OF THE POLE SHIFT ON THE MEDIA AND NET.
Insanis Stultitia (1 month ago)
When you see the rats running to high ground, is time to sell your home before you’re literally find yourself under water. No pun intended.
Steve Hartley (1 month ago)
So, climate change not a reality huh? Its incredulous to me that although 98% of scientist believe that climate change is happening, some people are still denying it! Natural cycles and the exacerbation due to industrial pollution will make the effects of the changes happen sooner! Good luck coastal areas!
Mark Gigiel (1 month ago)
If you live in a desert or a flood prone area, MOVE. Be the first, do it now, because as global warming ramps up there will be a ton of people MOVING. Even to other countries. Don't rely on the government to help. They are part of the cause.
L Cardoso (1 month ago)
Just tell me when mar-o-lago is under the see!
ema93a (1 month ago)
Flooding is the result of climate change whether you like it or not.
Joshua79C C (21 days ago)
FLooding is more a man made issue than a natural thing
T baz (1 month ago)
it's too late. Just start telling people that they will lose their homes and they should start thinking about what to do before then. I would just up and move.... Let the ocean take my home, I don't care.
Steven Marsh (1 month ago)
Stabilize the climate? Replace the sand? Raise the streets? Look, things are not going to get better, things are not going to stabilize. Also, at this point, with seven billion people on the planet there will never be voluntary reduction of emissions from fossil fuels. The only reduction will occur when it is no longer profitable to exploit oil and gas resources.
J P (1 month ago)
(2:20) "Since the 1950s, some parts of Florida have experienced as much as 12 inches of sea level rise." NOT POSSIBLE. Why hasn't the rest of the coast experienced this? You CANNOT fill a bathtub and see the water rise in only part of it. There's another problem. Are parts of Florida sinking due to ISOSTASY? Over the decades, you have been adding weight to that part of the planet. Buildings, roadways, etc. Could all that weight be causing parts of Florida to sink? We've witnessed that in Las Vegas, yet no one is saying the desert is rising.
jack g (1 month ago)
i told a friend in Boca, Florida, she said it aint happening for a long time still. Looks like its going to be sooner than later.
seng tee (2 months ago)
Scientists are looking at the wrong areas. They say greenhouse gases and everyone looks at the emissions they can see because it is easiest. “Fossil fuels”, everyone says and agrees to. But when some data shows that CO2 emissions being controlled and lessened, but yet, we are still seeing sea levels rise? It’s the other greenhouse gas that’s causing a rise in temperature. METHANE. Please refer to the Myth Busters experiment where kids observed the effects of both CO2 and Methane and pay attention to the conclusion. Methane is not being regulated. What’s the biggest contributor to this gas? Meat. Farming for meat. For beef and for swine. And the consumption and need for this product leads to more deforestation, which releases CO2 through burning of the forests, but for a more sustained time, the land cultivated is used to produce mostly soy and corn to feed not primarily us humans, but the animals we will consume. This is where the regulations and more research can help save the coastal cities from sea level rise from glacial melts.
TJ Devereaux (2 months ago)
It seems to me after watching so many of these type of videos, that we are indeed going to face trillions of dollars of damage in lost real estate. Instead of frantically trying to think of ways to keep the water out, why not put that money towards learning how to live with the rising levels like they have in The Netherlands. I was watching a really interesting documentary about a company that makes homes and even office buildings that float, they can be tied to a fixed more, but one which can rise up or down with the ever changing the sea levels, and in worst case scenario is they can just move the structure somewhere else, as technically it’s a boat, although it looks like a regular house. I don’t know this person personally, it’s one of my friends friend, but this person lives on one of these new homes, and he sent me a whole bunch of pictures, and I was in shock! It looks exactly like every other home in the country, it’s got a car parked in the driveway, The beautiful landscaped front yard, and just looks like an average home, until you look a little closer and noticed there’s a small gap between the house and the land. They’ve engineer to concrete wall, that has middle peers driven into the ocean floor, and the house is attached to these peers by giant rings. The place literally has the concrete basement, but it’s a specialized concrete that’s much later and stronger than regular concrete. They guarantee that this structure will float, and never leak, for at least 100 years. The best part is it’s a lot cheaper than a regular home on land, and if you don’t like your neighbours you have to simply can’t catch your house from the peers and move it someplace else via tugboat. I was absolutely blown away at how beautiful and modern this house it is, I would never guess in 1 million years it’s an actual houseboat, but then I found a website that shows how they manufacture these homes and it’s absolutely incredible, and quick. They can build a house in Half the time it takes to build a regular house. They simply floated out of the dock, and tow it to its permanent mooring. I even saw a structure that looks like a good-sized office building, that was five stories high, and to my incredible surprise was actually floating. The Dutch are absolute geniuses, As they’ve had to fight off the seat their entire life, and they have become masters at it, we here in North America could learn a lot from them, so instead of fighting like hell to try to keep the water out, which is a losing battle anyways, why not start off a new, and copy the Netherlands example?
Himself Lee (2 months ago)
So, rather than move inland, they want the taxpayers to front money for sea walls so they can keep their waterfront properties. Even the most early settlers had enough sense when building near a river to take the high ground in case of spring flooding. People just want to the right on that water.
john franco (2 months ago)
I've been going to Atlantic city my whole life no sea level rise there at all matter fact the ocean is receding
Clearanceman2 (2 months ago)
It will be interesting to come back to this in 20 years and see if they were right. But somehow it won't be available.
the fools channel (2 months ago)
The only positive out come of global warming is that florida will be gone in 10 years
Zeena Abdura (2 months ago)
Don't blame Pres. Trump for flooding or climate change. This has been going on noticably since the FIFTIES.
Paddy Craig (2 months ago)
I read some of the comments here and really feel sorry for the species that humanity is going to take down with us. The bigger issue which will hit humanity before the really big impacts of sea level will be loss of food production. Those of you who are unaware of that already happening need only watch your food bills increase significantly by the end of this year. As for those who fail to observe the reality about sea ice you need need to understand only one figure and law of physics. It takes 79.2 calories of heat to melt one gram of ice and transition it into water. Once that happens that same incoming heat of 79.2 will then raise that same 1 gram of water to 79.2 Celsius, what then for your HABITAT?
Phyllis Posey (2 months ago)
What has happened in the past, will happen in the future. Once Upon a Time...Most, if not all, of what we call Florida, was under water, as were other areas of many continents, those "we can still see". New continental lands also formed. The Industrial Revolution of Humanity, added some new variables to the Earth Climate System, which changed the system, even though we are only just now recognizing it as such. Also, various countries are spraying our skies and tampering with Mother Nature (The Climate System) and this has further impacted how the Natural Processes are working, it has most likely also accelerated earth changes we would not have normally seen for thousands of years, but we are seeing them now. Our Ancestors moved around, they were ALL NOMADIC. In our times, we are no longer Nomadic and in fact, abhor the idea of moving at all, especially once we have settled down and are happy with our environment. No-one will be able to fix this Environmental-Earth Climate System. If you decrease one pollutant in the atmosphere, it will alter the system. If you increase another pollutant in the atmosphere, it will alter the system. If you add chemicals into the system to try and mitigate the weather, it will alter the system. The system is out of alignment - it will never be the same, neither will the oceans unfortunately :( We need to be working to study the past geological and earth changes, especially the ice melt that will be coming through our continent both from the North as well as the Sea, and be prepared to move people out of the way, or they will die. Miami, and Florida in general, are Obstinate and Ignorant to a fault. They must be honest with themselves and the public. People will have to be relocated and our Public Infrastructure "inland", will need to be modified as well. All Public Infrastructure in the zones where Ancient Seabeds are, will be destroyed as the salt water moves in. There will be Environmental Chaos from chemicals contaminating the oceans and bodies of freshwater. All that money spent to enhance cities, wasted, gone forever. Our Economy will be impacted adversely.
Lynn Jackson-Martin (2 months ago)
As the magnetic north has moved 146 plus miles toward England and Russia , as we tilt the sea level will rise...all of the vides on Nebriu explained these fact that are now accruing..was no one watching..tilt wabble...water slashing back and forth..
TheChiefpmt (2 months ago)
The federal gov must cut back, the entire world is about to go into protectionism and it will become survival of the fittest an most prepared. Abrupt means to quick to respond like a flash flood. People need to think and act to protect themselves NOW!!!!
John Thompson (3 months ago)
LISTEN TO ALL THE SCREEAMING ! ITS TO LATE BABY... THE BIBBLE SAID... I LEAVE YOU THIS GARDEN FOR TO TEND ! THE RACKET OF THE CHAIN SAWS CAN STILL BE HEARD IN THE RAIN FORESTS ! IT'S ALL OVER NOW BABY BLUE!
Ryan L (3 months ago)
They're beyond screwed, it's sell now and move out of Florida or just let your property values sink, literally.
HardWarUK (3 months ago)
Higher temperatures cause flooding, but also affects food production, so in 50 years expect people to be dry - but starving!
Joseph Smith (3 months ago)
Ignore climate change caused by man and fossil fuels at your own peril!
Sten-Åke Dahl (3 months ago)
No rise at all. tectonic plates are sinking in some areas stop this talking.
John Cooper (4 months ago)
IDK about global warming as much as the amount of boats subs and nuclear waste we have in the ocean that made it rise or volcanic activity making new land take more of a prespective on things and it might make more sense
ObsoletePowerCorrupts (4 months ago)
Residents do not want the streets raised higher than their homes? Isn't there an opportunity there for some kinda of deal with the residents so that they are allowed to essentially have their existing ground floor area as a basement (which they can deprecated later if they want) and build floors atop that? Sure, they'd replace their buildings, but they are made of wood anyway. You'd have some sort of stone/brick/concrete basement (and slick crib btw). Yanks build their homes by themselves all the time. They could do it if they wanted.
Rethink Everything (4 months ago)
These are drainage problems, not sea level. I live in Florida, & have witnessed no rise in sea levels whatsoever.
samslick90 (4 months ago)
Why does Al Gore live in an exclusive beach resort community in trendy California?
Stáfon Von Caḿron (5 months ago)
So they want to keep the water out but also want to live right on/by it? Sounds like Florida is playing hard to get.
richystar2001 (5 months ago)
And yet Miami is still building Billion dollar Mega Condos??... CNN just bought a Billion Dollar Building right beside the water on Manhattan Island ... that's 40yr multi Billion dollar Bank Loans for those Buildings... WTF?? and yet CNN says Manhattan will be underwater in 40yrs?? WTF?? Wake up Sheeple. Forecasts of 2 meter water rise in 40yrs are Bullshit. A Co2 tax is Social welfare for the worlds poor.
482lost (4 months ago)
richystar2001 It's not bs, CNN executives saw the news about NYCs plans to counter the sea rise.
Danzigmann (5 months ago)
You're delusional if you think they will ever stop burning fossil fuels... Prepare yourself for the coming SHITSTORM!
Ray Bod (6 months ago)
Peat moss in the formerly frozen arctic tundra emits methane all summer long. The Arctic Ocean keeps absorbing more solar radiation. We are beyond the tipping point. The feed-back loop has started. There is no saving coastal cities.
TheCrustyFry (5 months ago)
I agree it is way more worse than they are saying. I work for an excavation company that does work in coastal cities bordering one of the cities featured in this video and we are finding the tops of old roads, rail road tracks, and bulkheads from the 16-1800s 10 feet in the ground where the water table has since long overtaken them and the ocean is in danger of overtaking the ground on the surface 10 feet above that was filled in!
Keith Tolleson (6 months ago)
the coastline for the gulf of mexico has been between Houston & Dallas TX & about Jackson MS 140 + times and its happening again it will be there in about 4500 more years as it is about 12000 year cycles , geologists and paleo people study this in school its called planet earth thats what it does ! yes the ice melts and refreezes if you really want something to freak you out think about the rocky mountains getting formed by a glacer sliding into the surface of the plate ! Now that was a big chunk of ice ! Did it happen all the sudden or over time thats the question !
482lost (4 months ago)
Keith Tolleson Problem is there is no more natural sediment to reform the coast for one thanks to our dams along the rivers. And two, the drilling for oil has caused voids in the ground that cause the area to sink. Add on the sea level rise and it becomes a disaster that isn't naturally formed. Louisiana already lost so much of its coast the US map is now observably incorrect in shape when you compare it to the real coast.
Angel Terrero (7 months ago)
This is so stupid I literally can't even watch it.
Frank Bowman (7 months ago)
"Saving" coastal cities is not an environmentally-friendly solution. Abandoning those cities IS.
IkeGee1973 (8 months ago)
Sea level rise? Just more Communist Snake Oil for sale.
Yoferil (8 months ago)
It's been rising 2mm a year since 1880 (started taking records). Even through the ice age in the 70's it still rose. I think the message is clear. There's only one thing we can do.
Yoferil (8 months ago)
How can anyone argue with this undeniable truth displayed in this video. Where are all the displaced people going to live now?
Yoferil (8 months ago)
I can't belive how the beach is gone and they've had to move the board walk back 3 times already
Yoferil (8 months ago)
I mean WHEN it happens. Because everyone knows it WILL happen.
Pura Vida dew (8 months ago)
If you want to survive then stop electing Republicans.
Inkalimeva TV (9 months ago)
The black lady should be more worried about her weight more than anything else.
Juststop Forreal (9 months ago)
Well i see we have (so called) smart humans on here,WAR SHIPS ALONE RAISE SEA LEVEL YET FOOLS SAY NO PROOF?? POOR HUMANS.... LIKE THESE HUMANS JUST LIEING TO GET ATTENTION WOW
Isai Gonzalez (10 months ago)
Why not clean the water and use it for food and drinks.
222222e (10 months ago)
So they don't bring up the high level of dredging that's causing this also. Them pulling sand from the ocean floor in Miami to build high rises could be one of their biggest problems.
Kale Gallarde (10 months ago)
The sea level is not rising the shores are washing away, ever notice why the current pulls out off shore so strong its taking the shores out causing water to get closer
Pericles The Tyrant (11 months ago)
Why are so many of you guys keep talking about politics?
错鞘 (11 months ago)
the maya calander was right, the world is dead, we are now living in the aftermath
Robert Hamilton (11 months ago)
Build on stilts
Perseus (11 months ago)
We have countless photos of celebrities and buildings and cities from 20,30,50, even100 years ago. We can all see the change then and now in those photos. Where are the photos of sea levels historically compared with sea levels today? Why can't I find these photos anywhere? If I search Google Images I get graphs and documents and I get projected sea-level change photos. If This Were a real thing shouldn't these photos be a really easy way to prove it?
Adam Newe (1 year ago)
What if you can build buildings on stilts and people can drive boats instead of cars. It might be expensive but in the future it might be more affordable because of advancements in technology.
Hosoi Archives (1 year ago)
So no sea level rise?
ndrthrdr1 (2 months ago)
Why the same idiotic comment, over and over? We know why.
GEORGELET4 (1 year ago)
Those Miami Beach properties must be selling for pretty cheap - well, maybe not. Here is testimony from someone in the field... I was helping to fix a concrete boat dock with the seawall on Miami Beach in 1991, where we marked the low tide and the high tide. In 2017 there is not an inch difference. At that time in 1991 when we did the work they said that in a decade or two the water will reach above the dock....somehow it did not happen.
Joshua79C C (21 days ago)
Seriously every time I hear "sea level rise" when a beach is loosing ground due to EROSION, which is the big issue in FL built on march using reclamation measures to be able to build on "solid" land. Where in other countries they have Stilt homes sitting in water and not sinking into the water.
Philip Turner (1 month ago)
If this is true, who are we to trust ?
Donald Keith (1 year ago)
11 Facts About Factory Farms and the EnvironmentWelcome to DoSomething.org, a global movement of 5.5 million young people making positive change, online and off! The 11 facts you want are below, and the sources for the facts are at the very bottom of the page. After you learn something, do something! Find out how to take action here.About 10 billion land animals in the United States are raised for dairy, meat, and eggs each year.Factory farming accounts for 37% of methane (CH4) emissions, which has more than 20 times the global warming potential of CO2.Manure can also contain traces of salt and heavy metals, which can end up in bodies of water and accumulate in the sediment, concentrating as they move up the food chain. When manure is repeatedly overapplied to farm land it causes dangerous levels of phosphorus and nitrogen in the water supply. In such excessive amounts, nitrogen robs water of oxygen and destroys aquatic life.Burning fossil fuels to produce fertilizers for animal feed crops may emit 41 million metric tons of CO2 per year. Tackle a campaign to make the world suck less.EXPLORE CAMPAIGNSGlobally, deforestation for animal grazing and feed crops is estimated to emit 2.4 billion tons of CO2 every year.Corn, wheat, and rice, the fast-growing crops on which humanity depends for survival, are among the most nitrogen hungry of all plants.Large-scale animal factories often give animals antibiotics to promote growth, or to compensate for illness resulting from crowded conditions. These antibiotics enter the environment and the food chain.Factory farms contribute to air pollution by releasing compounds such as hydrogen sulfide, ammonia, and methane.The US Department of Agriculture estimates that confined farm animals generate more than 450 million tonnes of manure annually, 3 times more raw waste than generated by Americans.The waste lagoons on Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations (CAFOs) not only pollute our groundwater, but deplete it as well. Many of the farms use the groundwater for cleaning, cooling, and drinking.Sources1 The Humane Society of the United States. "An HSUS Report: The Welfare of Animals in the Meat, Egg, and Dairy Industries." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.2 The Humane Society of the United States. "Animal Agriculture & Climate Change." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.3 Natural Resources Defense Council. "Pollution from Giant Livestock Farms Threatens Public Health." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.4 Natural Resources Defense Council. "Pollution from Giant Livestock Farms Threatens Public Health." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.5 Koneswaran, Gowri, and Danielle Nierenberg. "Global Farm Animal Production and Global Warming: Impacting and Mitigating Climate Change." Environmental Health Perspective, 2008.6 The Humane Society of the United States. "Animal Agriculture & Climate Change." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.7 National Graphic Society. "Fertilized World." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.8 The Humane Society of the United States. "Animal Agriculture & Climate Change." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.9 Natural Resources Defense Council. "Pollution from Giant Livestock Farms Threatens Public Health." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.10 The Humane Society of the United States. "Animal Agriculture & Climate Change." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.11 Natural Resources Defense Council. "Pollution from Giant Livestock Farms Threatens Public Health." Web Accessed April 18, 2015.
above all odds (1 year ago)
When will it stop the climate control sales pitch?!!
Guy Clermont (1 year ago)
Yes it's a reality. It should not be blamed on humans.
J Glad (1 year ago)
Meanwhile in reality: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/no-indication-of-sea-level-rise-in-miami/
GEORGELET4 (1 year ago)
Property values in Miami Beach should be falling, are they? Thank you Jon S. for this… I was helping to fix a concrete boat dock with the seawall on Miami Beach in 1991, where we marked the low tide and the high tide. In 2017 there is not an inch difference. At that time in 1991 when we did the work they said that in a decade or two the water will reach above the dock....somehow it did not happen.
Mordalo (1 year ago)
News flash, this is not caused by sea level rise. The shores are washing away. They don't bother telling you that this flooding happens at extreme high tides. This happens like clockwork and they even know how to predict it. Further, the ice is not melting to make this happen, that is pure BS. Both poles and Greenland are in fact adding ice. Look it up. Whatever happened to basic science knowledge? Here is a hint, even if you did melt all of the ice in the Arctic tomorrow, it would do nothing to sea levels.
fl00fydragon (2 months ago)
"Look it up" so a youtube video or a random online blog outweighs the entiere scientific community that specializes on the field right? As for it "having no effect" antartica and greenland hold ice that's on land. Do this experiment: get a fishtank , put in a brick and raise the water up to the level of hte brick and mark it onthe outside. Then put a block of ice on top of the brick (Not on the water!) and seal the tank with a plastic wrap to emulate the fact that we don't lose water onto space. Then wait untill the ice has fully melted and check the water level. Basic science experiment a first grader can do.
UR A NOOB! ! (4 months ago)
If it’s due to erosion then surely the waves will be able to send it back someplace else
Hosoi Archives (1 year ago)
So no sea level rise?
Joshua79C C (21 days ago)
Seeing how much FL is or rather was Swamp to which soil was dumped upon, the issues here is nothing to due to sea level rise which is false, its due to erosion and settling.
J P (1 month ago)
That's not possible. You can't fill up only part of a bathtub. I'm obviously ignoring potentially small differences in gravitational pull around the world but the ocean is churned up due to the moon's gravity as it revolves around the earth. You could see a higher tide here than there, but you aren't going to see regular sea level rise in only select places. Miami is sinking. The water hasn't risen but maybe an inch or two in our lifetimes. There was actually a study in the Pacific. I can't remember if it was done by a university in New Zealand or Australia, but they spent a lot of money on high tech buoys. The project was ended years ago because they found no discernible sea level rise over the years of the project.
joe mctaggart (1 month ago)
Rises one place recedes another
J P (1 month ago)
Well, if you watched the video, only "parts of Florida" experience sea level rise of a foot. I guess climate change only targets old people.
Brandon Ramirez (1 year ago)
Miami is a shithole, no big loss here.
Brandon Ramirez (1 year ago)
HAVANA SCP lived in Miami for 10 years try again honey lol
HAVANA SCP (1 year ago)
Brandon Ramirez jealous much. Or to broke to afford the city? Lol
zmc33 (1 year ago)
'we have to move away from gas.....' and there you have it folks. agenda driven science AND fearmongering. these guyz are good
+zmc33 Yeah - that IS what we HAVE to do IF we want to preserve our civilization, IF we don't want to murder millions of people & impoverish millions of people. So what? Another conservative who whines about HYPOTHETICAL laws that have not even taken place yet, but which are badly needed? Conservatism is a mental disease that cares ONLY about keeping the extremist status quo position. What about the DEA telling people to move away from drugs? What about the FBI telling people what they may or may not say online? What about police who lie & make up MYTHS about whether one person killed another? What about fascist judges who tell people they have to go to court? Those are all just politically-motivated agendas. No scientific facts. No scientific truths. Or the MYTH of "illegal" immigration that police & border patrol make up, rather than scientifically prove? Science ONLY tells you what is. Science ONLY tells you causation: if you do this, then this happens.
Yoferil (8 months ago)
zmc33 Miami was built on a swamp. The fact that it's still above water is a miracle
Hilarious 😂 No proof to show. All forecasts. No more than biblical apocalypse hype. Sure, show a flood and you aren't showing sea rise. It's a storm you silly rabbits.
J Glad (1 year ago)
Little do they know proxigean tides are a thing in the real world.
Jamal Munshi (1 year ago)
Ok, that's the talk but here is the data https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3011279
The Enhemylator (1 year ago)
more nonsense, king tides are an annual event, not a sign of sea level rise
J Glad (1 year ago)
I've begun to suspect the large property development cartels have merely leaned on the government and media to scam the public into covering the losses they expect to see from poor planning, foolishly building huge heavy concrete structures atop soft subsiding land at sea level on tidal floodplains.
blob assimilate (1 year ago)
no amount of money will stop it,,,,this planet does not belong to any of you..the water will keep coming up and up,,and so with the storms......till the so called civilizations,are all wiped off the planet......next someone should be so bright as to live in their own little world where they can stop the tides?start the tides?stop the wind?start the wind?none of you were ever on top of the food chain..or superior to the planet under your feet..your all helpless and delusional.even the rich among you wont save a damn thing they think is so great......
copy print (1 year ago)
NO MIAMI , they have the Best strip clubs , sad face :(
fred verkerk (1 year ago)
cal the dutch
Clifford Ishii (1 year ago)
Learn to swim.
M. Kemal Ata (1 year ago)
hang on people! Donald Trump is inviting you to Trump Tower. Problem solved. Don't worry, take it easy. I am perjan meaw
Yousif Y Tobiya (1 year ago)
The world wasted 17 years of scientific progress and solutions of global warming and climate change ,and will miss the rest of the old... They think that the sciences are limited to the Amirican and Eurpean peoples... Please read my comment at this adress(new york's $ 20 bn plan to survive rising seas)...Yousif Ayoub Tobiya Forcibly displaced
Nino Blarrow (1 year ago)
Got one thing to say... SPLATOOOOOONNN!
nunya bidness (1 year ago)
Unmitigated cowflop.
Mr. Elastomeric1 (1 year ago)
u hauls
anthony toscano (1 year ago)
One thing that make us feel better is, Trump's Florida White House will wash away; That would be Great, I mean Really Great, That would be HUGE, Who knew that Global warming was this complicated.
tom Dobyns (1 month ago)
Why so? You'd rather have crooks and those that would sell their soul for a dollar ? If you don't have any morals, what about your kids ? What sort of a world will they inherit from the likes of you? Why not try to actually figure out the problems before you look for a solution ? You don't see we have problems that caused Trump to be elected ? Isn't that a big decision? Elect a woman as president that is corrupt or a blond man that wants to repair our country and talks about clutching cooters. I'll take the latter, thank you. It is a step up. It is also very American. We are making much ado about nothing and killing the dog trying to catch his fleas. AND, quit crying ! Grrrr.
Bo McGillacutty (1 month ago)
anthony toscano Correction: YUGE not Huge.
Svetoslav Markov (1 year ago)
OMG, Sunny day flooding?! Those guys are completely uneducated... :D
Bandicoot (1 year ago)
Stop your consuming practices, that's the only way to change the paradigm! Stop now!
Remco Van Ek (1 year ago)
Florida voted for Trump. So, .... bye.
TheDesert IsPatient (28 days ago)
No sympathy at all for Florida; whether flooding or red tide or storm surge. Reap what they sowed. Why should the Federal government help?
Bo McGillacutty (1 month ago)
mdo686 Actually it's very to the point. Trump denies anthropocentric climate change (as do many Rs) as well as regulations to mitigate subsidence and that's the heart of the issue here. How deep under water will some need to get before they acknowledge: "Houston we have a problem."?
Earl Gray (1 month ago)
* * * The following is my response to a foreigner named Gort, who wrote a very kind comment on a MSNBC video concerning the U.S.A. on (8/25/18) * * * Hello to my foreign friend Gort, As an American citizen I thank you for complimenting the United States of America. It is very reassuring to know that anyone from another country has anything kind to write after the apalling schmendrick Trump has contaminated our Whitehouse. No American voter possessing an IQ above 50 can be held responsible. Trump actually lost what is known as the popular vote (meaning the majority of voters,) but sadly we utilize an archaic system known as the electoral college that supercedes what most voters desire. I expect that due to the horror of electing a mentally disturbed, narcissistic, bombastic, unscrupulous, ect. "Kadokhes," (yiddish) our voting system will get a complete overhall. Americans utilizing a normal thought process feel as we are enduring a 4 year root canal, or we are being led by that crazy shrunkenhead on the Knight bus in the Harry Potter movie (though the head was much better looking than Donny) "Prisoners of Azkabar." The tradgedy for us is that many foreigners perceive Americans as mean, uncaring, hateful wealthy people, even more so as the result of Trump's racism, evil, hatred, bigotry, bullying, indifference, ect. towards the rest of the world with the exception of Putin's Russia. In reality most Americans must work diligently to survive while feeling helpless as "the selfish privileged few," along with corrupt leaders that plunder, cheat, ect with a few exceptions, own the rest of the population. With Very Kind Regards, Earl
mdo686 (1 month ago)
Congrats, this is the dumbest comment I have read all week.
Hadi Purwanto (1 year ago)
Trump won in Florida, so congrats to Trump supporters. clap...clap...clap...
Adam Wingert (1 month ago)
Your so mean Florida has almost 19. Million people and you th
Bo McGillacutty (1 month ago)
The Ultimate Reductionist You are NO BETTER than those two, just a different flavor of the SAME DAMN THING.
+Hadi Purwanto I take that was a very sarcastic triple clap. I got ZERO empathy for ANY bad thing that happens to republicunts or demoturds. Vote Green.
UR A NOOB! ! (4 months ago)
Miami-Dade county voted strongly democrat
Caleb Cornish (1 year ago)
You should have capitalized "city" in the title.
What will we do without Miami and Atlantic City? Huge loss! Very worried!
Bo McGillacutty (1 month ago)
Yuge!
R Nunez C. (1 year ago)
Lets make the flooding great, it will be amazing , beautiful, guys...beleive me...
englandsensation (1 year ago)
The fact they can't even say the frase "climate change" because a bunch of ignorants won't believe it...Stupid people are a cancer to society.
zmc33 (1 year ago)
um. i'm one of the 'bunch of ignorants'. just letting you know that you spell phrase with a ph not an f. you silly
Lydia L Pineault (1 year ago)
It's sad That some people refuse to believe that this is reality! 😟
Jack Emanuel (9 days ago)
J P you are truly stupid, many of those cities are already quite high compared to Florida. Think logically, this is a global issue. You should complete a science degree.
J P (1 month ago)
Sad that people like Lydia are allowed to vote but are too stupid to see the true reality. So, Lydia, explain to us how "parts of Florida" have seen a foot of sea level rise but other parts haven't? The video says that. How is that possible? Why hasn't Honolulu seen this rise? Manhattan? Cape Town? Sydney? Explain to me how only parts of the earth would experience sea level rise. No offense, but you are dumber than a rock and you fall for the latest story. Ever heard of ISOSTASY? Of course you haven't. You aren't a geophysicist. Truth be told, the earth's crust moves up and down just as it moves side to side. Think that could be an issue?
robert hicks (1 year ago)
The reality is the land is sinking due to the water table dropping. The land had a method of replenishing that water, but man decide he was smarter than nature and dug a ditch to get the water out of a swamp. Unfortunately, that means the water table can not be replenished and it drops, causing air pockets in the ground which are filled up by soil above it. This is called subsidence. Add that the sea levels have been rising since the end of the little ice age and yes, Miami is in trouble.
J Glad (1 year ago)
Reality: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/no-indication-of-sea-level-rise-in-miami/
Rod Martin, Jr. (1 year ago)
+ Lydia L Pineault, sad that there are so many people who never hear the whole story from scientists who disagree with the Biggest Oil Rockefellers "climate change" scam. Oh, climate has changed, all right. It can't help but change. It has changed for 4.5 billion years. But the corrupt Big News and Big Science conflating "climate change" (the scientific term) with "dangerous, man made global warming" is dishonest at best. We live in an Ice Age. Seas have risen 400+ feet in the last 20,000 years, and someone is freaking out over the last few inches being man made. Al Gore's film was great for waking people up to environmental issues. I was a big fan for several years. But then one of my younger brothers said something that reminded me of details from my original study of climate science in the mid-70s. Suddenly, I saw how horribly wrong Al Gore and I had been. Humans have trashed much of the planet with pollution -- garbage, chemicals and the like. But CO2 is not pollution. You exhale CO2 with every breath. Without it, all life would die. And too much? How much is that? Here's a brief overview of the various levels of CO2 in history and their significance: *_150 ppm_* -- CO2 Mass Extinction *_400 ppm_* -- CO2 today *_800 ppm_* -- CO2 starvation trigger which forced plants worldwide to evolve C4 species *_1,600 ppm_* -- CO2 Normal *_4,000 ppm_* -- CO2 abundance *_8,000 ppm_* -- Rich CO2 levels, the kind which allowed so many plants that it gave us our fossil fuels *_10,000 ppm_* -- Nominal CO2 on naval submarines *_20,000 ppm_* -- Maximum recommended CO2 on NASA spacecraft *_210,000 ppm_* -- The level of oxygen in our atmosphere, and possibly the level of CO2 when Earth had zero oxygen (before photosynthesis).
Șerban Andrei (1 year ago)
faded
Arnold Layne (1 year ago)
How can sea levels rise faster in one place compared to another?
Philip Turner (1 month ago)
so-what you are saying is that apparent sea level change is often NOT sea level change......blah blah blah. For godness's sake, get it right
tom Dobyns (1 month ago)
Doesn't make much sense, does it? Is the land going up or down? Is the sea level going up or down? What do you use to establish a "0" point? Is there more water or earth? Is the air temperature doing this? Is it the water temperature? Is it the core temp of the earth? Is this changing? Actually, we have no idea of what the problem is, nor any idea about what to do about it. We can point our fingers and blame each other... or we can attempt to use science to determine what our problems are, and work on a solution. We want to blame man, but if man wasn't here, we wouldn't need to worry, would we?
Didivs Ivlianvs (2 months ago)
>local crustal displacement, glacial isostatic adjustment, steric effects, distance from large masses (like the Greenland Ice Sheet), and even local wind patterns ----- So in addition to CO2 we have to stop plate tectonics, land rise and subsidence and move Greenland and the wind somewhere else.  You people may be smart but not that smart and not smart enough to fool us rubes into socialism.
Didivs Ivlianvs (2 months ago)
The Bay of Fundy channels tides into a narrow space.  And then it goes back out again.  Average sea level there is no different than anywhere else.
+Jason Kling And you're a shithead who denies the reality of the oceans expanding & getting hotter due to all the carbon we have dug up from underground and burned, making it go into the air.
Pranish Chhetri (1 year ago)
Thank god I live in landlocked country
Mona Al (1 year ago)
PRANISH Chhetry I thank the lord I live in Alberta

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