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Sea level rise: Miami and Atlantic city fight to stay above water

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Sea levels are rising. For many cities on the the eastern shores of the United States, the problem is existential. Subscribe to The Guardian ► http://is.gd/subscribeguardian We take a look at how Miami and Atlantic City are tackling climate change, and the challenges they face under a skeptical Trump administration that plans to cut funding for environmental programs. Become a Guardian supporter ► http://bit.ly/GDNmembers The Guardian ► https://www.theguardian.com Suggested videos: Battle for Mosul ► http://bit.ly/MosulDoc Radical Brownies ► http://bit.ly/RadicalBrowniesFilm Desert Fire ► http://bit.ly/DesertFire 6x9: experience solitary confinement ► http://bit.ly/6x9gdn Gun Nation ► http://bit.ly/GunNationDoc We Walk Together ► http://bit.ly/WeWalkTogetherFilm The last job on Earth ► http://bit.ly/LastJobOnEarth Patrick Stewart: the ECHR and us ► http://bit.ly/PatrickStewartS The epic journey of a refugee cat ► http://bit.ly/KunkuzCat Guardian playlists: Guardian Bertha Documentaries ► http://bit.ly/GuardianBertha In my opinion ► http://bit.ly/InMyOpinion Owen Jones meets ► http://bit.ly/CorbynJones US elections 2016 ► http://bit.ly/elections2016gdn Guardian Animations & Explanations ►http://is.gd/explainers Guardian Investigations ► http://is.gd/guardianinvestigations The Guardian's YouTube channels: Owen Jones talks ► http://bit.ly/subsowenjones Guardian Football ► http://is.gd/guardianfootball Guardian Science and Tech ► http://is.gd/guardiantech Guardian Culture ► http://is.gd/guardianculture Guardian Wires ► http://is.gd/guardianwires
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TJ Devereaux (4 days ago)
It seems to me after watching so many of these type of videos, that we are indeed going to face trillions of dollars of damage in lost real estate. Instead of frantically trying to think of ways to keep the water out, why not put that money towards learning how to live with the rising levels like they have in The Netherlands. I was watching a really interesting documentary about a company that makes homes and even office buildings that float, they can be tied to a fixed more, but one which can rise up or down with the ever changing the sea levels, and in worst case scenario is they can just move the structure somewhere else, as technically it’s a boat, although it looks like a regular house. I don’t know this person personally, it’s one of my friends friend, but this person lives on one of these new homes, and he sent me a whole bunch of pictures, and I was in shock! It looks exactly like every other home in the country, it’s got a car parked in the driveway, The beautiful landscaped front yard, and just looks like an average home, until you look a little closer and noticed there’s a small gap between the house and the land. They’ve engineer to concrete wall, that has middle peers driven into the ocean floor, and the house is attached to these peers by giant rings. The place literally has the concrete basement, but it’s a specialized concrete that’s much later and stronger than regular concrete. They guarantee that this structure will float, and never leak, for at least 100 years. The best part is it’s a lot cheaper than a regular home on land, and if you don’t like your neighbours you have to simply can’t catch your house from the peers and move it someplace else via tugboat. I was absolutely blown away at how beautiful and modern this house it is, I would never guess in 1 million years it’s an actual houseboat, but then I found a website that shows how they manufacture these homes and it’s absolutely incredible, and quick. They can build a house in Half the time it takes to build a regular house. They simply floated out of the dock, and tow it to its permanent mooring. I even saw a structure that looks like a good-sized office building, that was five stories high, and to my incredible surprise was actually floating. The Dutch are absolute geniuses, As they’ve had to fight off the seat their entire life, and they have become masters at it, we here in North America could learn a lot from them, so instead of fighting like hell to try to keep the water out, which is a losing battle anyways, why not start off a new, and copy the Netherlands example?
Himself Lee (4 days ago)
So, rather than move inland, they want the taxpayers to front money for sea walls so they can keep their waterfront properties. Even the most early settlers had enough sense when building near a river to take the high ground in case of spring flooding. People just want to the right on that water.
john franco (5 days ago)
I've been going to Atlantic city my whole life no sea level rise there at all matter fact the ocean is receding
Clearanceman2 (7 days ago)
It will be interesting to come back to this in 20 years and see if they were right. But somehow it won't be available.
the fools channel (9 days ago)
The only positive out come of global warming is that florida will be gone in 10 years
Zeena Abdura (10 days ago)
Don't blame Pres. Trump for flooding or climate change. This has been going on noticably since the FIFTIES.
Paddy Craig (13 days ago)
I read some of the comments here and really feel sorry for the species that humanity is going to take down with us. The bigger issue which will hit humanity before the really big impacts of sea level will be loss of food production. Those of you who are unaware of that already happening need only watch your food bills increase significantly by the end of this year. As for those who fail to observe the reality about sea ice you need need to understand only one figure and law of physics. It takes 79.2 calories of heat to melt one gram of ice and transition it into water. Once that happens that same incoming heat of 79.2 will then raise that same 1 gram of water to 79.2 Celsius, what then for your HABITAT?
Phyllis Posey (18 days ago)
What has happened in the past, will happen in the future. Once Upon a Time...Most, if not all, of what we call Florida, was under water, as were other areas of many continents, those "we can still see". New continental lands also formed. The Industrial Revolution of Humanity, added some new variables to the Earth Climate System, which changed the system, even though we are only just now recognizing it as such. Also, various countries are spraying our skies and tampering with Mother Nature (The Climate System) and this has further impacted how the Natural Processes are working, it has most likely also accelerated earth changes we would not have normally seen for thousands of years, but we are seeing them now. Our Ancestors moved around, they were ALL NOMADIC. In our times, we are no longer Nomadic and in fact, abhor the idea of moving at all, especially once we have settled down and are happy with our environment. No-one will be able to fix this Environmental-Earth Climate System. If you decrease one pollutant in the atmosphere, it will alter the system. If you increase another pollutant in the atmosphere, it will alter the system. If you add chemicals into the system to try and mitigate the weather, it will alter the system. The system is out of alignment - it will never be the same, neither will the oceans unfortunately :( We need to be working to study the past geological and earth changes, especially the ice melt that will be coming through our continent both from the North as well as the Sea, and be prepared to move people out of the way, or they will die. Miami, and Florida in general, are Obstinate and Ignorant to a fault. They must be honest with themselves and the public. People will have to be relocated and our Public Infrastructure "inland", will need to be modified as well. All Public Infrastructure in the zones where Ancient Seabeds are, will be destroyed as the salt water moves in. There will be Environmental Chaos from chemicals contaminating the oceans and bodies of freshwater. All that money spent to enhance cities, wasted, gone forever. Our Economy will be impacted adversely.
Lynn Jackson-Martin (20 days ago)
As the magnetic north has moved 146 plus miles toward England and Russia , as we tilt the sea level will rise...all of the vides on Nebriu explained these fact that are now accruing..was no one watching..tilt wabble...water slashing back and forth..
TheChiefpmt (24 days ago)
The federal gov must cut back, the entire world is about to go into protectionism and it will become survival of the fittest an most prepared. Abrupt means to quick to respond like a flash flood. People need to think and act to protect themselves NOW!!!!
John Thompson (27 days ago)
LISTEN TO ALL THE SCREEAMING ! ITS TO LATE BABY... THE BIBBLE SAID... I LEAVE YOU THIS GARDEN FOR TO TEND ! THE RACKET OF THE CHAIN SAWS CAN STILL BE HEARD IN THE RAIN FORESTS ! IT'S ALL OVER NOW BABY BLUE!
Ryan L (1 month ago)
They're beyond screwed, it's sell now and move out of Florida or just let your property values sink, literally.
HardWarUK (1 month ago)
Higher temperatures cause flooding, but also affects food production, so in 50 years expect people to be dry - but starving!
Joseph Smith (1 month ago)
Ignore climate change caused by man and fossil fuels at your own peril!
Sten-Åke Dahl (1 month ago)
No rise at all. tectonic plates are sinking in some areas stop this talking.
John Cooper (1 month ago)
IDK about global warming as much as the amount of boats subs and nuclear waste we have in the ocean that made it rise or volcanic activity making new land take more of a prespective on things and it might make more sense
ObsoletePowerCorrupts (2 months ago)
Residents do not want the streets raised higher than their homes? Isn't there an opportunity there for some kinda of deal with the residents so that they are allowed to essentially have their existing ground floor area as a basement (which they can deprecated later if they want) and build floors atop that? Sure, they'd replace their buildings, but they are made of wood anyway. You'd have some sort of stone/brick/concrete basement (and slick crib btw). Yanks build their homes by themselves all the time. They could do it if they wanted.
Rethink Everything (2 months ago)
These are drainage problems, not sea level. I live in Florida, & have witnessed no rise in sea levels whatsoever.
samslick90 (2 months ago)
Why does Al Gore live in an exclusive beach resort community in trendy California?
Stáfon Von Caḿron (2 months ago)
So they want to keep the water out but also want to live right on/by it? Sounds like Florida is playing hard to get.
richystar2001 (3 months ago)
And yet Miami is still building Billion dollar Mega Condos??... CNN just bought a Billion Dollar Building right beside the water on Manhattan Island ... that's 40yr multi Billion dollar Bank Loans for those Buildings... WTF?? and yet CNN says Manhattan will be underwater in 40yrs?? WTF?? Wake up Sheeple. Forecasts of 2 meter water rise in 40yrs are Bullshit. A Co2 tax is Social welfare for the worlds poor.
482lost (2 months ago)
richystar2001 It's not bs, CNN executives saw the news about NYCs plans to counter the sea rise.
Danzigmann (3 months ago)
You're delusional if you think they will ever stop burning fossil fuels... Prepare yourself for the coming SHITSTORM!
Ray Bod (3 months ago)
Peat moss in the formerly frozen arctic tundra emits methane all summer long. The Arctic Ocean keeps absorbing more solar radiation. We are beyond the tipping point. The feed-back loop has started. There is no saving coastal cities.
TheCrustyFry (3 months ago)
I agree it is way more worse than they are saying. I work for an excavation company that does work in coastal cities bordering one of the cities featured in this video and we are finding the tops of old roads, rail road tracks, and bulkheads from the 16-1800s 10 feet in the ground where the water table has since long overtaken them and the ocean is in danger of overtaking the ground on the surface 10 feet above that was filled in!
Keith Tolleson (4 months ago)
the coastline for the gulf of mexico has been between Houston & Dallas TX & about Jackson MS 140 + times and its happening again it will be there in about 4500 more years as it is about 12000 year cycles , geologists and paleo people study this in school its called planet earth thats what it does ! yes the ice melts and refreezes if you really want something to freak you out think about the rocky mountains getting formed by a glacer sliding into the surface of the plate ! Now that was a big chunk of ice ! Did it happen all the sudden or over time thats the question !
482lost (2 months ago)
Keith Tolleson Problem is there is no more natural sediment to reform the coast for one thanks to our dams along the rivers. And two, the drilling for oil has caused voids in the ground that cause the area to sink. Add on the sea level rise and it becomes a disaster that isn't naturally formed. Louisiana already lost so much of its coast the US map is now observably incorrect in shape when you compare it to the real coast.
Angel Terrero (5 months ago)
This is so stupid I literally can't even watch it.
Frank Bowman (5 months ago)
"Saving" coastal cities is not an environmentally-friendly solution. Abandoning those cities IS.
IkeGee1973 (6 months ago)
Sea level rise? Just more Communist Snake Oil for sale.
Yoferil (6 months ago)
It's been rising 2mm a year since 1880 (started taking records). Even through the ice age in the 70's it still rose. I think the message is clear. There's only one thing we can do.
Yoferil (6 months ago)
How can anyone argue with this undeniable truth displayed in this video. Where are all the displaced people going to live now?
Yoferil (6 months ago)
I can't belive how the beach is gone and they've had to move the board walk back 3 times already
Yoferil (6 months ago)
I mean WHEN it happens. Because everyone knows it WILL happen.
Pura Vida dew (6 months ago)
If you want to survive then stop electing Republicans.
Inkalimeva TV (6 months ago)
The black lady should be more worried about her weight more than anything else.
Juststop Forreal (7 months ago)
Well i see we have (so called) smart humans on here,WAR SHIPS ALONE RAISE SEA LEVEL YET FOOLS SAY NO PROOF?? POOR HUMANS.... LIKE THESE HUMANS JUST LIEING TO GET ATTENTION WOW
Isai Gonzalez (8 months ago)
Why not clean the water and use it for food and drinks.
222222e (8 months ago)
So they don't bring up the high level of dredging that's causing this also. Them pulling sand from the ocean floor in Miami to build high rises could be one of their biggest problems.
Kale Gallarde (8 months ago)
The sea level is not rising the shores are washing away, ever notice why the current pulls out off shore so strong its taking the shores out causing water to get closer
Pericles The Tyrant (8 months ago)
Why are so many of you guys keep talking about politics?
错鞘 (9 months ago)
the maya calander was right, the world is dead, we are now living in the aftermath
Robert Hamilton (9 months ago)
Build on stilts
Perseus (9 months ago)
We have countless photos of celebrities and buildings and cities from 20,30,50, even100 years ago. We can all see the change then and now in those photos. Where are the photos of sea levels historically compared with sea levels today? Why can't I find these photos anywhere? If I search Google Images I get graphs and documents and I get projected sea-level change photos. If This Were a real thing shouldn't these photos be a really easy way to prove it?
Adam Newe (9 months ago)
What if you can build buildings on stilts and people can drive boats instead of cars. It might be expensive but in the future it might be more affordable because of advancements in technology.
Hosoi Archives (10 months ago)
So no sea level rise?
ndrthrdr1 (13 days ago)
Why the same idiotic comment, over and over? We know why.
GEORGELET4 (10 months ago)
Those Miami Beach properties must be selling for pretty cheap - well, maybe not. Here is testimony from someone in the field... I was helping to fix a concrete boat dock with the seawall on Miami Beach in 1991, where we marked the low tide and the high tide. In 2017 there is not an inch difference. At that time in 1991 when we did the work they said that in a decade or two the water will reach above the dock....somehow it did not happen.
Donald Keith (11 months ago)
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above all odds (11 months ago)
When will it stop the climate control sales pitch?!!
Guy Clermont (11 months ago)
Yes it's a reality. It should not be blamed on humans.
J Glad (11 months ago)
Meanwhile in reality: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/no-indication-of-sea-level-rise-in-miami/
GEORGELET4 (1 year ago)
Property values in Miami Beach should be falling, are they? Thank you Jon S. for this… I was helping to fix a concrete boat dock with the seawall on Miami Beach in 1991, where we marked the low tide and the high tide. In 2017 there is not an inch difference. At that time in 1991 when we did the work they said that in a decade or two the water will reach above the dock....somehow it did not happen.
Mordalo (1 year ago)
News flash, this is not caused by sea level rise. The shores are washing away. They don't bother telling you that this flooding happens at extreme high tides. This happens like clockwork and they even know how to predict it. Further, the ice is not melting to make this happen, that is pure BS. Both poles and Greenland are in fact adding ice. Look it up. Whatever happened to basic science knowledge? Here is a hint, even if you did melt all of the ice in the Arctic tomorrow, it would do nothing to sea levels.
fl00fydragon (15 days ago)
"Look it up" so a youtube video or a random online blog outweighs the entiere scientific community that specializes on the field right? As for it "having no effect" antartica and greenland hold ice that's on land. Do this experiment: get a fishtank , put in a brick and raise the water up to the level of hte brick and mark it onthe outside. Then put a block of ice on top of the brick (Not on the water!) and seal the tank with a plastic wrap to emulate the fact that we don't lose water onto space. Then wait untill the ice has fully melted and check the water level. Basic science experiment a first grader can do.
UR A NOOB! ! (1 month ago)
If it’s due to erosion then surely the waves will be able to send it back someplace else
Sidewon Nimene (7 months ago)
Mordalo so If the seas are rising higher each year what should mankind do? Sit in the water. It is an issue thats why south Florida is spending billions upgrading infrastructure and adding over 70 pumps alone to Miami Beach. The issue is state own roads vs city roads in the case of south Florida. This is happening all over the world just not Florida.
Hosoi Archives (1 year ago)
So no sea level rise?
Brandon Ramirez (1 year ago)
Miami is a shithole, no big loss here.
Brandon Ramirez (11 months ago)
HAVANA SCP lived in Miami for 10 years try again honey lol
HAVANA SCP (11 months ago)
Brandon Ramirez jealous much. Or to broke to afford the city? Lol
zmc33 (1 year ago)
'we have to move away from gas.....' and there you have it folks. agenda driven science AND fearmongering. these guyz are good
+zmc33 Yeah - that IS what we HAVE to do IF we want to preserve our civilization, IF we don't want to murder millions of people & impoverish millions of people. So what? Another conservative who whines about HYPOTHETICAL laws that have not even taken place yet, but which are badly needed? Conservatism is a mental disease that cares ONLY about keeping the extremist status quo position. What about the DEA telling people to move away from drugs? What about the FBI telling people what they may or may not say online? What about police who lie & make up MYTHS about whether one person killed another? What about fascist judges who tell people they have to go to court? Those are all just politically-motivated agendas. No scientific facts. No scientific truths. Or the MYTH of "illegal" immigration that police & border patrol make up, rather than scientifically prove? Science ONLY tells you what is. Science ONLY tells you causation: if you do this, then this happens.
Yoferil (6 months ago)
zmc33 Miami was built on a swamp. The fact that it's still above water is a miracle
Hilarious 😂 No proof to show. All forecasts. No more than biblical apocalypse hype. Sure, show a flood and you aren't showing sea rise. It's a storm you silly rabbits.
J Glad (11 months ago)
Little do they know proxigean tides are a thing in the real world.
Jamal Munshi (1 year ago)
Ok, that's the talk but here is the data https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3011279
The Enhemylator (1 year ago)
more nonsense, king tides are an annual event, not a sign of sea level rise
J Glad (11 months ago)
I've begun to suspect the large property development cartels have merely leaned on the government and media to scam the public into covering the losses they expect to see from poor planning, foolishly building huge heavy concrete structures atop soft subsiding land at sea level on tidal floodplains.
blob assimilate (1 year ago)
no amount of money will stop it,,,,this planet does not belong to any of you..the water will keep coming up and up,,and so with the storms......till the so called civilizations,are all wiped off the planet......next someone should be so bright as to live in their own little world where they can stop the tides?start the tides?stop the wind?start the wind?none of you were ever on top of the food chain..or superior to the planet under your feet..your all helpless and delusional.even the rich among you wont save a damn thing they think is so great......
copy print (1 year ago)
NO MIAMI , they have the Best strip clubs , sad face :(
fred verkerk (1 year ago)
cal the dutch
Clifford Ishii (1 year ago)
Learn to swim.
M. Kemal Ata (1 year ago)
hang on people! Donald Trump is inviting you to Trump Tower. Problem solved. Don't worry, take it easy. I am perjan meaw
Yousif Y Tobiya (1 year ago)
The world wasted 17 years of scientific progress and solutions of global warming and climate change ,and will miss the rest of the old... They think that the sciences are limited to the Amirican and Eurpean peoples... Please read my comment at this adress(new york's $ 20 bn plan to survive rising seas)...Yousif Ayoub Tobiya Forcibly displaced
Nino Blarrow (1 year ago)
Got one thing to say... SPLATOOOOOONNN!
nunya bidness (1 year ago)
Unmitigated cowflop.
Mr. Elastomeric1 (1 year ago)
u hauls
anthony toscano (1 year ago)
One thing that make us feel better is, Trump's Florida White House will wash away; That would be Great, I mean Really Great, That would be HUGE, Who knew that Global warming was this complicated.
Svetoslav Markov (1 year ago)
OMG, Sunny day flooding?! Those guys are completely uneducated... :D
Bandicoot (1 year ago)
Stop your consuming practices, that's the only way to change the paradigm! Stop now!
Remco Van Ek (1 year ago)
Florida voted for Trump. So, .... bye.
William Hill (5 days ago)
Trump didn't cause it, but his denial of it sure isn't helping.
trump is doing everything he can to speed up the global warming
Johan sigurdson (1 month ago)
Ya because Trump is causing global warming..
Hadi Purwanto (1 year ago)
Trump won in Florida, so congrats to Trump supporters. clap...clap...clap...
+Hadi Purwanto I take that was a very sarcastic triple clap. I got ZERO empathy for ANY bad thing that happens to republicunts or demoturds. Vote Green.
UR A NOOB! ! (1 month ago)
Miami-Dade county voted strongly democrat
Pericles The Tyrant (8 months ago)
Hadi Purwanto So ignorant..
Caleb Cornish (1 year ago)
You should have capitalized "city" in the title.
What will we do without Miami and Atlantic City? Huge loss! Very worried!
R Nunez C. (1 year ago)
Lets make the flooding great, it will be amazing , beautiful, guys...beleive me...
englandsensation (1 year ago)
The fact they can't even say the frase "climate change" because a bunch of ignorants won't believe it...Stupid people are a cancer to society.
zmc33 (1 year ago)
um. i'm one of the 'bunch of ignorants'. just letting you know that you spell phrase with a ph not an f. you silly
Lydia L Pineault (1 year ago)
It's sad That some people refuse to believe that this is reality! 😟
robert hicks (11 months ago)
The reality is the land is sinking due to the water table dropping. The land had a method of replenishing that water, but man decide he was smarter than nature and dug a ditch to get the water out of a swamp. Unfortunately, that means the water table can not be replenished and it drops, causing air pockets in the ground which are filled up by soil above it. This is called subsidence. Add that the sea levels have been rising since the end of the little ice age and yes, Miami is in trouble.
J Glad (11 months ago)
Reality: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/no-indication-of-sea-level-rise-in-miami/
Rod Martin, Jr. (1 year ago)
+ Lydia L Pineault, sad that there are so many people who never hear the whole story from scientists who disagree with the Biggest Oil Rockefellers "climate change" scam. Oh, climate has changed, all right. It can't help but change. It has changed for 4.5 billion years. But the corrupt Big News and Big Science conflating "climate change" (the scientific term) with "dangerous, man made global warming" is dishonest at best. We live in an Ice Age. Seas have risen 400+ feet in the last 20,000 years, and someone is freaking out over the last few inches being man made. Al Gore's film was great for waking people up to environmental issues. I was a big fan for several years. But then one of my younger brothers said something that reminded me of details from my original study of climate science in the mid-70s. Suddenly, I saw how horribly wrong Al Gore and I had been. Humans have trashed much of the planet with pollution -- garbage, chemicals and the like. But CO2 is not pollution. You exhale CO2 with every breath. Without it, all life would die. And too much? How much is that? Here's a brief overview of the various levels of CO2 in history and their significance: *_150 ppm_* -- CO2 Mass Extinction *_400 ppm_* -- CO2 today *_800 ppm_* -- CO2 starvation trigger which forced plants worldwide to evolve C4 species *_1,600 ppm_* -- CO2 Normal *_4,000 ppm_* -- CO2 abundance *_8,000 ppm_* -- Rich CO2 levels, the kind which allowed so many plants that it gave us our fossil fuels *_10,000 ppm_* -- Nominal CO2 on naval submarines *_20,000 ppm_* -- Maximum recommended CO2 on NASA spacecraft *_210,000 ppm_* -- The level of oxygen in our atmosphere, and possibly the level of CO2 when Earth had zero oxygen (before photosynthesis).
Șerban Andrei (1 year ago)
faded
Arnold Layne (1 year ago)
How can sea levels rise faster in one place compared to another?
Didivs Ivlianvs (3 days ago)
>local crustal displacement, glacial isostatic adjustment, steric effects, distance from large masses (like the Greenland Ice Sheet), and even local wind patterns ----- So in addition to CO2 we have to stop plate tectonics, land rise and subsidence and move Greenland and the wind somewhere else.  You people may be smart but not that smart and not smart enough to fool us rubes into socialism.
Didivs Ivlianvs (3 days ago)
The Bay of Fundy channels tides into a narrow space.  And then it goes back out again.  Average sea level there is no different than anywhere else.
+Jason Kling And you're a shithead who denies the reality of the oceans expanding & getting hotter due to all the carbon we have dug up from underground and burned, making it go into the air.
+Arnold Layne Variations in earth's gravity because of variations in distance to the earth's center of mass.
Pranish Chhetri (1 year ago)
Thank god I live in landlocked country
Mona Al (1 year ago)
PRANISH Chhetry I thank the lord I live in Alberta
xchopp (1 year ago)
Thank you _The_ _Guardian_ for putting this on the front page this morning.
Knight Glint (1 year ago)
On the brightside a new shipping lane will open up.
jag10 (1 year ago)
Erosion does not exist in florida... welcome to global warming everyone
Orson Meyreles (1 year ago)
+Bobby Ingram It absolutely has NOT gotten colder over the last 15 years. The reason it was changed from "global warming" to "climate change" is because ignorant people couldn't differentiate between the yearly weather and global trends. Also, climate change doesn't just mean that on average it will be hotter, but it means that ALL weather anomalies are more extreme.
Landon Thomas (1 year ago)
the whole year. dumbass.
Sure it's really getting colder. That's what our owners want you to think. There are only so many berths in those deep underground military bunkers. No point in not using those trillions of dollars worth of fossil fuels yet to be extracted.
jag10 (1 year ago)
I predict that Climate Change will become Global Warming sometime in May when a -heat wave- cow's fart reacts with a camp fire in Texas.
jag10 (1 year ago)
Ice Sheets melt in the spring... welcome to climate change everyone
anthony toscano (1 year ago)
Vegetable
jag10 (1 year ago)
does earthier mean more earthy than earth?
anthony toscano (1 year ago)
Really you don't know what a flat earthier is, Proving my point of no intelligent life on the Trumpy fans; Google it, your friends won't know either.
jag10 (1 year ago)
Thank you Dr. Toscano. Many Leftists still live in caves. What is flat earthier?
anthony toscano (1 year ago)
The problem is, you are equating yourself with intelligence. You are understandably a flat earthier by denying facts over fiction. Getting F's in Science and Math. Everything you enjoy, cars TV, appliances, internet, on and on is do to science. You see a Wet Paint Sign, and you'll touch it any ways and get pissed because it's wet; If it wasn't for science people like you would still be living in a cave.
GoSu MonSteR (1 year ago)
The denial exists against all evidence because white supremacists know it hurts ethnic minorities worse in the short term. So they're willing to put up with a certain amount of environmental degradation just to destroy us.
Vera Scanlon (1 year ago)
tell that to Trump.. hes in denial but then its NOT happening to him
Clearanceman2 (7 days ago)
Well, don't vote for him next time, worry about your own leaders in your own country
Samanyu Nikam (5 months ago)
Vera Scanlon I,m with you
Rod Martin, Jr. (1 year ago)
+Vera Scanlon, Trump is a globalist puppet, just like Obama, Bush, Clinton and the rest -- going back half a century. We live in an Ice Age and our current interglacial started to shut down 3,000 years ago. We've had far warmer climate for most of the Holocene, and people are freaking out over this meager warmth? LOL Sea levels have risen 120+ meters in the last 20,000 years, and people are blaming man for the last few centimeters? That's equally funny. Climate has always changed, and suddenly it's dangerous? We've had far faster changes of climate in the past. Look up 1816 year without a summer. The global warming in recovering from that massive cooling was on the order of +50C per century -- far faster than the +3C per century the UN keeps harping about. And the great warming at the start of the Holocene -- that made civilization possible for the first time in 90,000 years -- that was, according to several different scientists as much as +100C per century (+10C in 10 years). So, the "denial" fits both sides. But who is really telling the truth, especially when Biggest Oil Rockefellers are financing *_both_* sides of the debate?
Vera Scanlon (1 year ago)
He has one is scotland as well.. hes hated over here in the UK
Jim Heeren (1 year ago)
But on the other end, it's just Miami. Will we really miss that place
+Jim Heeren Well said. I feel sorry ONLY for the few 3rd party voters & the nonhuman animals who will be forced to suffer from extreme rightwing pro-status quo injustice.
BlackGamingDude YT (4 months ago)
New Orleans.
Jim Heeren and London, Venice, Charleston, parts of NYC, the Netherlands, etc
Vera Scanlon (1 year ago)
its NOT just miami..
kaka kevin (1 year ago)
I'm not buying it. "Flooding from storms and tides are a problem". OK but what is the actual increase in mean sea level elevation? that is what your entire report is about yet it is not mentioned at all. Of course a low lying city will flood in a storm. Nothing to do with climate change.
kaka kevin (1 year ago)
except they dont' say how much the water has gone up, if any. maybe its from all the fat people I see swimming at the beach. EUREKA!
Mensch Norbert (1 year ago)
But with rising a rising sea level which is caused by climate change.
xchopp (1 year ago)
Bobby Ingram ("...and water does NOT seek its own level ?) --Usually but on a _planet_ it often cannot equalize quickly enough: other forces are pushing the water around. Ask an oceanographer.
Landon Thomas (1 year ago)
but the city is flooding from storms of less severity than before. Storms never had these effects on south Florida like they do now. At this point you're looking for reasons to not listen to facts. You're the problem here.
Sure it's the moon's gravity. That's what our owners want you to think. There are only so many berths in those deep underground bunkers. No point in not using those trillions of dollars worth of fossil fuels yet to be extracted.
lwnaALiraq (1 year ago)
Awesome report
Samanyu Nikam (5 months ago)
lwnaALiraq it's totally not awsome
Samanyu Nikam (5 months ago)
Trump???????

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